Joshua 24:1-33, Beyond Sunday is about being a person who is after Gods own heart a person who loves God first and foremost who places their love relationship number one in their life the person who does the One Thing the greatest thing first with God/Jesus love, Beyond Sunday pt. GOING BEYOND THE DUTY CALL AND WHAT IS EXPECTED! Romans 8:24 For we or even some reformed guys or women who speak against Schirer. but me and the wife basically just wanted to thank and encourage you sorry for the wall of text! This article is kept continuously updated as needed. If I might, it would be my joy to help you out with this. Youre more than welcome to join the study if youd like. God doesnt limit to a select few the number of Christians who are able to grow in the grace and knowledge of the Lord Jesus the way He limited entrance to the Promised Land. By Wade Martin Hughes, Sr. Kyfingers@aol.com If you need more information, Id suggest BereanResearch.org, FightingForTheFaith.com, CARM.org, GTY.org, and Apprising.org. So, to "not go beyond what is written" means to focus on Jesus and His Word above all else. Parables arent the same thing as eisegesis (or Jesus would have been handling Scripture improperly, Himself), and its easy to see this by reading through (in context) several of Jesus parables. Elizabeth. You are spot on. Do you interpret scripture to mean women should not witness to all people; share the gospel message to all nations not just other women or children? I knew she was his daughter, but Im completely unfamiliar with him or his doctrine. Mark 10:46-53, Denomination: (I dont think she was building doctrine in this promotional video, but I could be wrong.). Kay Arthur, Beth Moore, and Priscilla Shirer Believe In Teaching Men Tooat Surphs Side. And lead us not into temptation, but deliver us from evil. Fortunately, those arent your only two choices. The False Teaching of Priscilla Shirer on the Here I Stand Theology Podcast, Is Priscilla Shirer a Sound Exegete? I felt the Lord provided it at the very time I needed it. Priscilla and her husband of 22 years, Jerry Shirer, lead Going Beyond Ministries through which they provide spiritual support and resources to the body of Christ. 1. but I do know that I love Jesus and Im going to heaven, so Im just fine with that. ), but 2 Corinthians 6:14ff and 2 John 9-11, among other passages, are very clear that we are not to partner with those who teach false doctrine, which Catholicism, Word of Faith, and many other churches do. Now, I believe I have clearly answered all of your questions both here, in the article, and in the Additional Resources section, so let me add just one extra thing. I have to admit that I do not know the entire Biblical passage on this, but in my mind, if there is a WOMENS Conference, and books written for women, and Bible Studies written for women, all of them are geared to women, they cant really help men being in attendance of their own perogative, but any time I have been to a conference where these women spoke and I looked across an entire arena of seats, very very few of them were occupied by men. There is no dearth of advice for us believers about how to deal with this situation. Romans 4:18. Before we move on to Priscilla, I just want to reiterate that preaching to men is not the only way Beth is unrepentantly breaking Scripture (although that is certainly enough to disqualify her as a teacher). Is highly recomended, presenting four distinctive views about going "beyond the Bible", in ethics and moral issues, each one written by serious scholar. (Im also about 90% Reformed if you didnt get a chance to look at my statement of faith page.). #4b- this is supposition on your part. Yes, thats correct. Christians dont get to have our own personal opinions. As an absolute newcomer to the blogosphere, I very much appreciate you taking the time to construct a Biblically based critique of false teaching. Going Beyond Ministries with Priscilla Shirer The Mercy of Our Great God (March 24, 2017) Priscilla preaches the Sunday sermon at Celebration Church (co-pastored by a woman), Priscilla Shirer: YOUR Spiritual Battle & the Armor of God (Full Teaching) | Praise on TBN (May 21, 2021) Priscilla preaching to a co-ed audience at Passion 2018, Special Guest Priscilla Shirer (October 11, 2015) Priscilla preaches the Sunday sermon at The Refuge Church (co-pastored by a woman), What Are You Looking At | Priscilla Shirer | Hillsong East Coast (October 4, 2020) Priscilla preaches the Sunday sermon for Hillsong East Coast, Women Teachers? If so, then she is well aware of what the Bible says about these issues. If a pastor (or husband- Beth has also said she is acting under her husbands mantle of authority) tries to give her that authority, he is putting himself in the place of God who has prohibited it and he is sinning, too. I run into you everywhere man YouTube, Twitter, and now here lol. I also have a few tape recording of her Bible Studies that were done either in her Sunday School or her Tuesday Bible Study Meetings where she actually dismisses men from the room when she was at a church in Houston. Unfortunately, Word Press doesnt show me that kind of thing until after Ive published my own comment. ), partnering with false teachers (thank you for noting this! Why do you think I do not? You do not have to know whether or not Im a credible source to examine the evidence in light of Scripture and come to the conclusion that she is sinning. Im so happy for you that you have a discerning pastor. - People coming out of sinful lives dont usually smell good. 5. Free Sermons and Sermon Outlines for Preaching : How To Respond To Newly-Delivered People Who Still Are A Mess. , an unbiblical practice sometimes called narcissistic. Im pretty sure some of our ladies are going to ask me where the evidence is that she was purposely teaching scripture to men. Here is a short http://www.lighthousetrailsresearch.com article on Lisa: http://www.lighthousetrailsresearch.com/blog/?p=10843, You can also tell a lot about these leaders by what events they speak at: There's more to my answer than you might think. August 11, 2002 AM There is no way to be saved by putting your faith in a false christ. One Sunday, the preacher went on for a little longer than normal. As Christians, we are to follow and obey Gods written word, the Bible, not our own opinions. on Fighting for the Faith, True Woman Conference Speaker Priscilla Shirer Hears Gods Still, Small Voice at Apprising Ministries, Priscilla Shirer and Contemplative/Centering Prayer at Apprising Ministries, He Speaks to Me (April 24, 2008) promo video by Priscilla Shirer, War Rooms Priscilla Shirers Contemplative History, and Why ItMattersat Berean Research, Review of Priscilla Shirers Sermon: The Multitude by Chris Rosebrough, Priscilla Shirer- Mystic by David Sheldon, Priscilla Shirer: Out Of The Closet At The Alpha Leadership Conference 2017at Emergent Watch, Priscilla Shirerat Fighting for the Faith, Fervent Warning on Priscilla Shirerat Christian Answers for the New Age, Why I do not recommend Kendrick Brothers new movie, War Room, part 2 at The End Time, War Room: A Review by Justin Peters at Worldview Weekend, Stand Firm: A Review of War Room at Satisfaction Through Christ, Reblogged this on Seth Dunn and commented: #4a- Unfortunately, most people do read themselves into Scripture (largely due to being taught that way by false teachers such as the aforementioned and many others), but that doesnt mean its the correct way to study Scripture. Throughout Thats very wise, and I respect that. Bible Study Workbooks Priscilla's studies help believers to know the truths of Scripture intellectually and encourage them to experience these truths practically by the power of the Holy Spirit. THE CALL? Remember what Hebrews 5:12-14 says: For though by this time you ought to be teachers, you need someone to teach you again the basic principles of the oracles of God. Wolters begins with the shrewd observation that the four authors understand what moving beyond the Bible to theology means in at least four overlapping but distinguishable ways: (1) bringing the authority of Scripture to bear on issues that Scripture itself does not directly address (e.g., in contemporary bioethics); (2) dealing with ethically . Its not simply a prohibition against women having a job as a pastor- theres more to it than that. First, just because youve never heard of someone doesnt mean hes not a credible source (likewise just because someone is well known doesnt mean he is a credible source). She sounds really nice and charismatic and thats about it but my spirit doesnt bear witness with her. Silly me! She goes beyond what is written in teaching men, in partnering with false teachers, in teaching unbiblical prayer practices, and in using improper hermeneutics. You may not agree with all of these points, but there is enough here to indicate that you should be very wary of getting involved with Priscilla Shirer studies. In a day and age where any type of hope is needed, especially to the unchurched, I would listen to either Beth Moore or Priscilla Shirer any day of the week over the news. but i will look to the word of God , and i will talk to my pastor. Go beyond what's familiar. I have to admit that I do not know the entire Biblical passage on this, I do not endorse any of these sites in so far as any of them might deviate from Scripture or conflict with my beliefs as outlined in the Welcome or Statement of Faith tabs at the top of this page. Pink Impact ConferencePriscilla joined with faith healing apostle of the New Apostolic Reformation, Todd White, as well as false teachers Christine Caine, Lisa Harper, and Pastor Debbie Morris. I think you might find this brief video helpful as an example: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N-_THJXignk. Therefore, it is my recommendation that women not follow, support, or receive teaching from Priscilla Shirer or Going Beyond Ministries at this time. Often God reveals more through discussions and scripture references. It states our purpose to do only those things which are authorized by the Scripture. Next, youre not going to see an article like this from TGC or Challies. In Acts 17:11, the Bereans are praised for comparing everything Paul said to Scripture to see if it was true. What do you consider important/non-important and vital/non-vital, and on which Scriptures do you make these distinctions? It is about sin in the local congregation where you actually know the person personally and have access to him/her. Weve got to act on what the Bible says, not our own opinions. What Ive given you here are not my personal views. My personal views dont matter, and neither do yours. Go beyond by faith. Personal experiences can be evidence of the truth of rightly handled and understood Scripture, but not vice versa. Thanks for stopping by! We do not build doctrine or what we believe about God on peoples subjective experiences. Let's not go beyond what the Lord says through His Word. Wow! It sounds like you want to be discerning and weigh things carefully. WHAT'S THAT SMELL?: People just spiritually delivered by God usually dont smell good. 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