One, lung-shot by a client with a .270, reared as might a horse then fell backward, planting its long beams in the ground. When air judging, it is most important to try to look for weaknesses and strengths of the antler configuration. Other 7mms The 7mm family hatched around 1892 with the 7x57mm Mauser and has since grown to fifteen or more. The following methods I have used for a long time when picking apart a bulls rack. Look for good curve in the G1, G2, & G3 points. If recoil isnt a concern, you can slide up the power charts via the 33 Nosler, .340 Wby. Disclaimer: the information above is purely for illustrative purposes and should not be taken as permission to use a particular caliber, a statement of the legality or safety of using certain calibers, or legal advice in any way. Mag., 6.5 Weatherby RPM, 6.5-300 Wby. word-break: normal; A few more calibers throwing those famous .308 bullets include the .300 Ruger Compact Magnum, .300 SAUM, .300 WSM, .30/308 Norma Mag., .300 H&H, 30 Nosler, .300 Wby. font-family: Arial, sans-serif; When a bull has his head down feeding, I determine whether the main beam is higher or lower than the hump on his back above his shoulder. This is a 297 bull that has a broken tine. Lets dive right in. I understand what you are saying Bobmuley, but 5" could make or break a record book bull. If it is shorter or longer than the hump on the back, I add or subtract inches accordingly. Hit an elk with a 175-gr. We have three other primary assumptions being made here. slug from the .300 Win. I left it out because with its gargantuan powder capacity its almost too much of a good thing. JavaScript is disabled. Here is how the Base 200 system works. Mag. The hunt was donated by Trophy Mountain Ranch, an estate hunting outfitter located near Cowdrey, Colorado. Eastern elk were driven to extinction due to commercial use, unregulated hunting, and habitat loss in the 1800s and early 1900s. And yes, shots on elk can be far. Is the .280 Remington a viable caliber/load/round/cartridge for elk hunting? } Its so common that it may seem a bit boring, but this is probably the most versatile elk cartridge availableso long as you choose the right bullet. It offers shocking good performance in a beltless, standard-length case and is becoming the go-to, extreme-range hunting cartridge. This is a grand-old cartridge based on the .308 Winchester, but it is loaded with a .358-caliber bullet. As stated previously, Kentucky's current herd numbers about 10,000 elk. 280 Ackley Improved, Rifles, Inc. Strata Stainless, 150-grain Barnes X, 1992, ID: Here's a 7mm based on an improved 280 Rem. Or even ten. There are several ways to field judge elk. Another bull, struck mid-rib by a 140-grain .280 bullet, simply crumpled. This is my brothers bull from 2003, grosses right at 295. Mag. Powered by UBB.threads PHP Forum Software 7.7.5. His favorite Mossy Oak camo pattern is Treestand. Ive taken as many bull elk with the .300 Win. Elk bullets must be tough enough to provide adequate penetration. Here we have leaned conservative by taking the average weight of a male individual of the species, since females generally weigh less and require less stopping power. Browse 755 big bull elk stock photos and images available, or start a new search to explore more stock photos and images. Good bullet design and placement seem to work just fine. What is the distance this species is typically hunted from? I feel pretty blessed not to have to subscribe to Hunttalk and be able to read countless hunting stories including two 400 inch bulls this year as well. border-color: black; There are several actions that could trigger this block including submitting a certain word or phrase, a SQL command or malformed data. Make sure that you look for curl or lots of curve. Now of course to be real here, I know that when we do draw a premium elk tag that we want to make the most of the tag. 320 Bull: G1=15, G2= 15, G3= 12, G4= 16, G5= 8. Heft up to a 10-pound rifle and kick will calm to just 32.7 ft-lb. Some cartridges take root in the hunting world quickly, others fade . Mag. The final arbiters of the Best elk calibers are you and the elk, but here are my top five that I chose for their balance of power, reach, recoil, trajectory (drop and drift,) availability, affordability in reasonably compact, light, mountain ready rifles. The kinetic energy of the projectile drops dramatically the further downrange it travels primarily due to energy lost in the form of heat generated by friction against the air itself. will handle the .338 Win. It generates velocities identical to the venerable .264 Win. One thing to be careful about is that until you truly breakdown a bull with the other two methods your air judgement is a rough quick guess. Hunters typically but incorrectly use the best elk calibers to mean cartridge, but Ill use calibers for the sake of this review. because maximum average chamber pressure is 64,000 psi. color: #ffffff; Everybody wants a 400 inch bull elk, but that isn't really a realistic expectation. So, with the proper balance in mind lets look at a great method for scoring mature bulls on the hoof. It was and still is Everymans (and womans) 30 magnum. Some guys get hung up on the "top split", when in reality that constitutes only one scorable point on each side. Mag. Want the best cartridge for elk hunting? Final analysis: Its not for everyone, but when you want to drive tough, heavy .30-caliber bullets fast, its awesome. I had a good friend bring a nice 6x6 home from Colorado last year that I'd have bet would be in the 330 range. Coondog, there are a few articles in some of the current gun/hunting rags regarding field judging. I will be very happy to harvest one of those and I know my dad will be thrilled. Anybody got pictures? Thanks guys those are some awesome bulls. Just as theres a significant difference between a 22-year-old, 6-foot 4-inch athlete and a 50-year-old, 5-foot 7-inch accountant, theres a huge difference between rolling prairies and 11,000-foot peaks poking above doghair stands of pine and spruce. Faster models like .270 Wby. If you only have one elk on the wall, a bull with six inch forks will "look" big. Here's why. Mag. 82= 16. some of the bulls we have taken scoring over 400 inches. Hunting elk in Colorado requires patience and a keen eye. font-size: 18px; Add these to the base of 200 for a total of 360. Field judging elk is an art, while measuring dead elk is an exact science. You always see the great big ones in the mags and on the videos, but what does a 280 t0 300 p/t bull look like? Note that a 320 bull will likely have 46 to 48 inch beams, about 56 inches of total mass, and a 38 inch spread. Field judging elk sized animals you don't often get to see, to me anyway, will be harder than it sounds. The kicker about this bull is he is 52" wide at the widest points. Heres what to do when you run up against non typicals or bulls such as 77s. It has nice tails but the 4 is a little short as well as the 3. border-spacing: 0; Keep in mind the beam tip is counted as a point, but not measured as a point. Mag. Mature bulls have heavy bones, dense muscle, and loads of resilience from years of shrugging off battle wounds. word-break: normal; But, credit where credit is due, its a great elk cartridge. What is the average muzzle energy for a .280 Remington? For a mature typical bull elk that scores around 350 B&C, his main beam length is usually around 50 per side x two sides = 100; his mass usually equals 30 per side x two sides = 60; and his inside spread is usually around 40, which equates to 100+60+40=200. Check your email for a confirmation message. .284-inch bullet or a 180-gr. Also pretty good spread and beam length. At the light end is the .338 Federal, the .308 Winchester case necked up. I really like Codave's picture from behind the bull, I will have to remember that. Mag., .300 RUM, and .30-378 Wby. Keep in mind that you view non-typicals as a typical 66 and then add the extra points as your final step. Because Winchester didnt insist on the caliber being proprietary, anyone could load and chamber for it. The best three-shot group came courtesy of Hornady 's .280 AI Precision Hunter load pushing a 162-grain ELD-X bullet at around 2,800 fps and measured exactly 0.40 inch center-to-centerclearly outstanding for a factory rifle/ammunition combination. Duck and goose hunters worry that unguided waterfowl hunting in Manitoba could eventually become a thing of the past for most Americans, Sometimesunder some circumstanceshunting is hard to explain. In late summer the velvet dries and falls off to reveal the bonelike structure of the fully-grown antlers. My hunting buddy, Dean Sanchez, and I were hunting the Gila National Forest. Still not a bad bull, but not 350! If you hunt massive-bodied Roosevelt bulls in the rain forests of the Northwest, or pine clad ridges and canyon bottoms anyplace where 200 yards is a long shot, this is a prime cartridge. Dozens of indignant elk hunters sent up a wail when the first elk cartridges article went live on F&Sbecause I hadnt included their .300 RUM favorite. It will take 3 trips at 97 lbs per trip, 4 trips at 73 lbs per trip and 5 trips at 58 lbs per trip. Look to something that fires a 7mm or bigger heavy-for-caliber projectile at around 3,000 fps. Join F&S+ to read exclusive stories by your favorite writers. I highly recommend dissecting a bull thoroughly before deciding to harvest that animal. I often use two anatomical measurements: There is quite a bit of air judging that gets done while estimating measurements, but if you use anatomical references, you can often get pretty close to the real measurement. At magnum velocities, the soft bullets tended to fragment and fail to penetrate adequately. With that said, we have assumed the average hunting distance for elk to be approximately 200 yards. The easier the terrain, the heavier the hunting rifle youll be able to tolerate. Your 280 with 150 gr partitions will do just fine on cow elk. Kel-Tec KS7 Pump Action Shotgun Specifications and features. With the right bullet and .308 hunting rifle, the ubiquitous .308 Winchester is more than adequate out to 300 yards where a high B.C. What's New in Bowhunting World All Rights Reserved. 2022 GOHUNT, LLC. We trot down the ridge, searching for a spot to glass the bull's position. It might be impossible to find the rifle you want and darn tough to find factory loads to feed it. Join F&S+ to read exclusive stories by your favorite writers. Here is a 330 gross bull with a down turned brow ;^). Start with 16 G1s and G2s, 12 G3s, 20 G4s, and 12 G5s. } Enter the number of points. The antlers are light in mass by comparison to an older larger bull. 702.847.8747 Paired with a sleek, wind-bucking bullet its still an outstanding choice for big bulls at distant ranges. text-align: center; First, the average bullet weight is encapsulated in the average muzzle energy for the .280 Remington. The bull elk-known to many as Kahuna, Bruno or 'Incredibull'-was a favourite among park visitors and known for his huge size. The author, center, with a 6x6 248 . I put down money to go on a mgmt elk hunt, where I can only take a 220 to 250 class. As with any caliber, the lighter the bullet and lower the muzzle velocity, the easier the rifle is to handle and the closer you should get before taking your shot. If the tip of the main beam comes to the top of the hump then the beam is probably around 50. Mags. 400 Bull: G1= 20, G2= 20, G3= 20, G4= 20, G5= 16. When does everyone think is the best time to sell/buy vehicles? The hunt was extra special since his father, James (right), who's also a professional guide, called the big bull in for him. Zero both three inches high at 100 yards and at 400 yards they both drop 11.3 inches and deflect about 8.5 inches in that 10 mph breeze. Paired with an adequately tough, heavy bullet, it will cleanly take heavy-bodied bulls from any ethical angle, and do so from a long distance. developed a reputation as a wounder because ammo companies and handloaders were stoking it with light, thin-jacketed projectiles meant for 757 Mauser speeds. You do not measure the bases as the first measurement which I have seen some hunters mistakenly do. Beyond that distance, it doesnt carry the steam of the faster cartridges listed here. vertical-align: top 180-gr. Bulls with straight looking points wont score well. arrived in 1958 as a short magnum derived from the .375 H&H belted magnum case. This meant the .338 Win. Short Magnums, Long Magnums, Ultra Magnums, stubby cases with long bullets, long cases even longer bullets; the list goes on and on. Colorado Springs, CO, USA. My picks for the best elk hunting calibers are what I consider the best, not the most popular. Our Genetics are improving each year and our antler average is getting bigger each year. A long barrel might be more useful in open habitats where shots are likely to be longer. .284-inch bullet or a 180-gr. font-size: 18px; The .378 will kill an elk but not any deader than 6.5 Creedmoor. While growing up in the early 1960s, I lived next to the federal elk refuge in Jackson Hole, Wyoming. 340 Bull: G1= 16, G2= 16, G3= 12, G4= 18, G5= 10. One of the most effective elk calibers available. For more on Arizona Guided Elk Hunts visit:http://exclusivepursuitoutfitters.com/arizona-elk-hunting/ This equates to extra inches since point lengths are measured along the outside curve. retains the title of best balanced elk caliber in it. Distance, of course, plays an important role in the viability of a given caliber in elk hunting. font-size: 18px; border-style: solid; Mag. In purely practical terms, no elk cartridge equals the beautifully balanced .300 Win. My eyeballs tell me from the 3rd point down he's better than a 300 bull, but from the 4th point up to the 6th on either side, he's smaller than what a 300 bull might look like. My guesses have been wrong many times, yet it is amazing how practice lessens the gap between field estimates and the actual measurements. On the other side of the caliber scale are the .35 Whelen (.30/06 necked up) and various .375s. cannot measure up to the .338 Win. Is the main beam really 50 or is it 53? Any rifle strong enough to contain the 7mm Rem. Adult elk cows can weigh anywhere between 496 to 531 pounds (about 225 to 241 kilograms) while bulls can weigh from 700 to 730 pounds (about 320 to 331 kilograms). For instance, if a bull is a fairly symmetrical 66 just add up one side of his points (G1, G2, G3, G4, & G5) and multiply by two. Mag. Add these up and you get 76 inches. Pictures of dead elk don't do much good. buried one Winchester magnum and created another. When you push past this performance level with a 7 mm cartridge, you do so with diminishing returns as far as velocity goes. You probably have noticed that I havent talked at all about net score versus gross score. } Here's how to set realistic expectations, get it done, and have a blast. trajectory may explain how the 7mm Rem. The distance from that hump down his front leg to his hoof is generally 54 to 58, depending on the maturity of the bull. overflow: hidden; I feel that if you can estimate a bull on the hoof within 10 inches, you are a good field judge. Might not make any record books but will be a good looking trophy to mount. Add in the lighter recoil of the .300 Win. Ditto rifle size. Elk wont care one way or the other so long as you use a suitable bullet and park it properly. You start by taking the first measurement at the smallest diameter between the first and second point, and then so on until you have 4 measurements total per side no matter how many points (tines) the bull has (See Coreys section on Scoring Elk). On a mature bull, that measurement is usually 15 to 16. Any cartridge in a caliber big enough to hit an elk hard hits you hard, too. I can make a 280 bull look a lot better with the right pose. . Free or royalty-free photos and images. A very important thing to keep in mind that will make your judging more accurate is to identify any weaknesses that a bull has. Mag. from a .338 Federal should deliver 1,711 f-p energy at 300 yards and drop just nine inches. padding: 10px 5px; For all its virtues, like the 6.5 Creedmoor the 6.5 PRC just doesnt have the bullet diameter and weight to handle steeply angled shot presentations. I start by estimating the brow tines (the first two points) by seeing how close they are in comparison to the length from the burr to the tip of the bulls nose. The 7mm Remington Magnum and .300 Winchester Magnum rifles have 26-inch barrels. 360 Bull: G1= 16, G2= 16, G3= 16, G4= 20, G5= 12. Re: In search of pics of a 260-300 bull. Be sure to check out these two podcast episodes for field judging reference at home or while at hunting camp. Keep in mind that with the Pope & Young and Boone & Crockett scoring systems (which are identical) you only measure 4 mass measurements along the main beam. No idea why the pic is upside down.just flip your phone. But not so much that youre afraid to shoot it. vertical-align: top Start with the .30/30 Winchester and climb until your nose bleeds. And he could get it in affordable rifles from several manufacturers. Mag. I'd have to look up how that would differ from B&C scoring. Id be hunting the San Carlos Reservation every year! Nonsense. The Giant 5x5, I know he is a 7x5, but this is what we have always called him.3 Consecutive Years of video footage of this Giant. The third assumption is that a projectile with appropriate terminal ballistics is being used, which for hunting usually means an expanding bullet. One of the most popular magnums of all time. Offering the perfect balance of tremendous energy, large frontal diameter, ballistic efficiency, and long barrel life, the .338 has garnered disciples among rifle savants such as F&S own David E. Petzal. background-color: #efefef; Fine options include the old .264 Win. Generally, a bull with a 300 class rack will be 4 or 5 years old. In other words, if we took our 380 bull from above and made him 77 with 8 inch G6s he would quickly jump to 396 or better! If you hunt elk in grizzly-infested country, a rifle chambered in .338 is comforting. And realize that after a hunt or choice you might want to choose differently. I am hoping for help here at the 'fire with the first problem. } I can't explain those kills. "Pure" lead cores need thick copper jackets to prevent disintegration on impact. When he is facing you, look at the width of his ears. This 9,000 acre premier ranch located in northeastern Utah has 11 elk tags per year and success has run at or near 100 percent on some great bulls. For somebody from TN who doesbt get to see elk except on tv and in mags it sure would make it hard to judge one in the field. Youll have to place your shots carefully and select a deep-penetrating bullet. GOHUNT is a registered trademark of GOHUNT, LLC. If you can add one ear length to each side, that should put you at a 37 inside spread (22 + 7.5 + 7.5 = 37). I've often though that a cow elk hunt . The 300-inch curse has plagued piles of public-land hunters chasing elk in the West. Five whopper Pennsylvania bull elk are in this year's state record book, including the new state #1 non-typical, 455-inch bull elk taken in 2020 in Elk County by hunter Duane Kramer. This one had a great whale tail but smallish bottoms. Loved by eccentric handloaders, this sleek hotrod generates 7mm magnum-like velocities out of an improved cartridge case; compared to its .280 Remington parent case, sharper-angled shoulders and less taper provide more propellant capacity resulting in turbo performance. Short action chamberings are likely to be in shorter, lighter rifles, so instead of a .338 Win. We argue cartridges and calibers endlessly, but bullet choice matters. Next, try to figure out how mature is the bull that you are looking at and keep it simple. You can email the site owner to let them know you were blocked. Most big mature bulls will have main beams close to 50 inches long. Please email us if you have questions about any of our product listings. The minimum score for a typical elk to qualify for the club is 260 inches. The distance from ear tip to ear tip (21 to 22); and. If you add these totals up for main beams, spread, and mass from both sides you get 200 inches. Apr 28, 2020. Non Typical bulls are undoubtedly the hardest to judge in the field. A couple of websites that you might find useful to help your scoring ability are http://www.boone-crockett.org/, and www.Pope-Young.org. Like other members of the deer family, the antlers of bull elk grow during spring and summer beneath a hairy skin covering known as velvet. True. Some are great on the front end and weak in the back, others are great on the back end and will be short up front, and yet the "normal" 300-inch bull will be equally impressive, but not big . The .264 topped out at 140-grains. Lets break them down: Because elk are three or four times bigger than even a big-bodied deer, the best elk cartridges are authoritative, mighty authoritative. .tg { Use enough gun, enough caliber, and enough cartridge and bullet to invite them to dinner. Notice by comparing these classes of bulls that misjudging a couple of points by a couple of inches will affect the accuracy of your score. South Dakota hunter Terry Ernst took the incredible drop-tine buck in Sonora back in January. Yes, the .280 Remington is A GOOD CHOICE for elk hunting, under average conditions, from a mid-range distance, with a medium grain expanding bullet, and with correct shot placement. So we have the 250-255 range covered, lets see one in the 255-260 . No rough-and-tough manly man in the 1960s was going to admit he couldnt handle that. The actual ear length itself (7.5). To more accurately estimate the inside spread of a bull- visually suspend the ear spread between the widest point of the beams. My archery bull from last week goes right around 300, maybe an inch or two below. Mag., and no one howls about that being too fast. This will give you a very good idea of the bulls inside spread. Note: If you are new to elk antler scoring or scoring in general, you can jump down to the bottom and watch the short four part video series on how to score an elk antler. text-align: center; Here was the same basic belted magnum case, but the 7mm threw bullets as heavy as 175 grains. When air judging I look for these particular things in this exact order: point length, main beams, mass and then spread. I'd put the closest one on my wall any day, score be damned. Your taste in rifle weight, mass, and recoil will color your choices. Trying to determine mass is very hard and requires scoring quite a few racks, but if you use those numbers, you will often be close. A 300 class bull usually has eye guards and brow tines that are less that the diatance from his eyes to the end of his nose. The .338 Win. Featuring a belt-free, standard-length case with a shoulder sharp enough to provide ultimate capacity and internal efficiency, yet not too steep for slick feeding, it outperforms even the .300 Weatherby Magnumand fits in standard-size bolt actions. What about the other assumptions? Just make sure you have the best rifle for the terrain you intend to hunt. Choosing one of them comes down to personal preference and the kinds of rifles one likes to carry. Mag.and does it in a short-action platform. So many variables with scoring elk. The 190-gr. Be aware of straight looking points without much end curve because they are often shorter than you think. Idaho Elk Outfitters. A bull elk is a male, which is much larger and heavier than a female, called a cow. Notice that 6 thirds would make a 350 type bull that should have 12 or better thirds, a 338 bull. bullet like the Swift Scirocco will retain 2,350 ft-lb at 400 yards, 1,500 ft-lb clear out at 600 yards. 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