It should close by itself. this is normal for a glock as they are not designed to have the slide closed slowly like this. Does anyone have any suggestions? I may have to get out a Glock and take a look. I put it back with the stock parts, and the issue continues. By Found the culprit. Haha.). Building a V2 soon. Just got my G26 back from Cold Bore Customs and did a quick trigger job, installed a smooth trigger and an extended slide release. 4 Reply SuccMySquanch 8 mo. The Barbie dolls are mine. Yes i am. what happens when you let it down slow is nothing like shooting it. Comedian and Student of Life | Ep 029 JP Sears, [ARCHIVED THREAD] - Glock 19 w/ LWD threaded bbl not going into battery with trigger depressed *Fixed*. I noticed that sometimes when I shoot, it will not go into battery (cycles fine otherwise) until I release the trigger. It had 2056 through it. Oct 20, 2013. Something he has seen in the field. When you purchase through links on our site, we may earn an affiliate commission, which supports our community. Im a little ahead of you on this path. can your extractor move freely? BTW, it fired and function 100% last night for 250 rounds with the spring installed incorrectly. I noticed while shooting that sometimes the slide will not return back to battery 100%. I think the increased slide weight is preventing the rsa from becoming fully compressed during the recoil cycle using the handloads. I couldnt be happier. The first suggestion comes directly from the troubleshooting section of the Armorer's manual. The tools. Firearm Discussion and Resources from AR-15, AK-47, Handguns and more! I have used them in several Glocks and found them to give a light pull while also giving a crisper break and feel. check the recoil spring. How long are the mounting screws for the RDS? I had a problem like that in my G34 when I was shooting it. Turns out I reinstalled the takedown lever backwards. Does the gun run OK or is it failing to go into battery during live fire? Have you made a change in ammo or reloading component lately? It was a good deal, and now I know why. sounds to me like the Timney is your problem, not the Glock. Your link has been automatically embedded. I mostly shoot 147gr Federal American Eagle. You cannot paste images directly. Just got a new spring today. So let's make sure we understand this situation. With Timney I can set off small rifle that I could not with my Glock trigger. Seat the magazine and pull the slide back all the way. Create an account to follow your favorite communities and start taking part in conversations. This is only going to be used at the range. It has a Scherer 3.5 connector. The Fora platform includes forum software by XenForo. I knew it was wrong cause I have a factory G17 gen 3. Display as a link instead, I read it gave a much nicer trigger pull. I have just installed an Agency arms trigger & trigger bar in the gun. Maybe ne messed something up in the slide. My G21 Gen 4 would do the same thing from time to time when it was brand new. I'm going to investigate your suggestions. LW barrels are drop in, but they really are more of forced fit. If that doesn't fix it, take the slide apart in the rear (you can find a YT video of how to take the back plate off) and make sure the springs on the firing pin, extractor and firing pin safety are in their correct orientation and not deformed. In the dozen or so that I have built and helped build, I have never had a need to 'file' down a trigger bar safety tab. Matter of fact, I have a couple of triggers from Charlie Vanek that he used a Lone Wolf connector in that he had tuned up. I'm wondering if cerakote got in the extractor channel and gummed things up. Your link has been automatically embedded. I recall him going into the slide then saying "wait, I don't have to mess with this." I've had two other people shoot it to make sure it wasn't a grip issue (one of the people was the class instructor so I hope his grip was good. https://www.facebook.com/pages/Rochester-Personal-Defense-LLC/461665857219329, Laws and Politics - Firearms/Self Defense/Weapons. first 50 rounds about 20% had a bulge in the casing at the base of the bullet, causing the slide not to go into battery. Thoughts on city living: If I'm at the dump and worried about all the rats, I don't think about how much ammo it takes to shoot them all, I just leave the dump. I will let everyone know what I find out. Do the RSA's need lube? In my opinion, I'd suggest the factory rounds (or load a hotter load) and find out if it solves the problem. I'm sorry it took me so long to reply, but life got in the way. It won't load a round. I'm assuming the recoil spring isn't the issue since it's only been fired one time. releasing the trigger allows it to go the rest of the way home. The problem is once I pull the trigger, and the slide racks either from firing or manually, it won't return fully to battery while the trigger is held back. It does once I release (reset) the trigger. "Laws that forbid the carrying of armsdisarm only those who are neither inclined nor determined to commit crimesSuch laws make things worse for the assaulted and better for the assailants; they serve rather to encourage than to prevent homicides, for an unarmed man may be attacked with greater confidence than an armed man." I have 3 of them and two of the three needed extensive adjustments to the connector and trigger bar cross bar to reset properly and consistently drop the striker. One new winner* is announced every week! If all else fails I'll call Glock. update looks to be the coating in tight paces, there is some ware marks on the slides where is contacts the frame. I dont have any aftermarket parts in it. The issue is the 19 will not go into battery when I pull the slide back. Glock slide not going into battery, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UK-5Fw3yjcM. Or has it been an issue since purchase? so, not a G20 but nearly all G17/19 I built or had the opportunity to help had the part that sticks up on the trigger assembly that pushes on the firing pin safety too high. In my opinion, I'd suggest the factory rounds (or load a hotter load) and find out if it solves the problem. When it completely hangs I can release the trigger part way and it will snap into battery. Or vice down the slide (use wood or thick cardboard not a bare vice or you'll mess up the slide) and push the frame forward toward the muzzle as hard as you can. Hope you were able to get yours sorted out. I ride the reset BTW - if I didnt, it would be fine. I agree, but Ive pretty much ruled out the recoil spring, and it seems crazy that four extensions and springs from henning and Dawson would all have the same malfunction. Pics to come soon. Then compare frames and see what is different. Pull out a round that chokes the pistol in the manner you are describing. If it strips a round and goes completely into battery then the recoil spring is at least minimally OK. Yes Glocks are pretty darned easy firearms to work with/on and, because of this, they are easy to make mistakes with as well. 3 Pull the slide back fully, then slowly ride the slide back into battery position, keeping the trigger depressed the whole time. AR15.COM is the world's largest firearm community and is a gathering place for firearm enthusiasts of all types. 3. make sure the plunger is properly installed, take the side apart and push down on the plunger. None of the modifications you mentioned are in the slide unless you changer out the plunger. Just a thought. Let me start by saying that I know I bought the wrong aftermarket slide. No need to clean, just add lube. This, in all cases with any new firearm, is a fundamental error. Be sure to check out our gun classifieds where you can buy, sell or trade your gear. Come join the discussion about optics, hunting, gunsmithing, styles, reviews, accessories, classifieds, and more! -Thomas Jefferson, quoting Cesare Beccaria, This is a decent video to check out to double check. Subscribe to our monthly Newsletter to receive firearm news, product discounts from your favorite Industry Partners, and more. I am pretty familiar, but I work with a Glock Advanced Armorer and even he is a bit stumped. Is this RSA going to $hit already? Seat the magazine and pull the slide back all the way. Never had an issue with the factory barrel. The simple thing seems to be that something did not go back together right. Ill be glad when theyre done and I can go back to the 4.0 lb spring. That's an easy way to figure out if you're just limp wristing or if it's a mechanical issue. Outdoor Hub, LLC (d/b/a Carbon Media Group), 30800 Telegraph Rd, Suite 1921, Bingham Farms, MI 48025 USA. If he lets go of the trigger at that point, the slide goes forward completely. Did lots on it and got it running like 98%. Once I put the stock one back in no problems. Don't leave 10mm brass, someone here will be willing to pay cash for them. If the problem gets worse that would be another indicator. I like the idea of using a second gun to diagnose. Give your new G19 some good lube on the rails, tabs and the barrel before shooting it again. that should fix it for sure, I assume you are using the "U" shaped washer as well ? I can't have more than 1500-2000 rounds through this pistol. Assuming you called Glock, how did they respond to this issue? There is a lot of stuff interacting to make the gun work and sometimes it can be hard to figure out. Just got my slide back from being milled for dp pro and does not go into battery every time. Buy some higher power factor ammo for the next (200) rounds. The last thing you want is to damage it so it's inoperable. Your previous content has been restored. Any ideas on what the issue might be? Agree with Danzig but I actually suspect it may have more to do with the slide, if your Suarez slide has been caracoated or duracoated there is the possibility of some build up in the slide rail slots or on the bottom of the slide in the area where the connector rides causing your problem. I have a couple Dawson and Henning magazine extensions. I pulled out my Timney a month or two ago and went back to Apex. If it strips a round and goes completely into battery then the recoil spring is at least minimally OK. Any update on this? The Glock in question is the G-30SF .45ACP. One way to discover if it is or isn't the problem is get out your calipers and measure along the slide rail slots in many places for each slide rail slot and then your front locking block slide rail and rear slide rails and the numbers will tell you if it's the problem or not. Try some hot 124 or 147 factory rds and let me know if it still does it. When I pull it all the way back and then release, the slide locks just fine. I agree with comments a few others have already made that Timney triggers are not necessarily a simple drop in. before the timney Ive been using a glockstore black yikes connector and Overwatch Precision trigger. JavaScript is disabled. I just replaced my G26 recoil spring. Was this an issue before you installed the new connector? you say its FTRTB (failing to return to battery) when allowing the slide to slam forward (not riding it slowly) I could only guess something wasnt put together properly. I noticed this after a cleaning. When you purchase through links on our site, we may earn an affiliate commission, which supports our community. If you have a weak spring, the slide won't go back into battery if you slowly let it move upwards against gravity. There are MANY other options for Glock trigger mods and all of them have been in use far longer than the Timney. They dont always fit perfectly right away. NWGlocker Registered Joined Aug 12, 2010 By If you really want to fly, get out of the plane. Maryland Shooters is the most active and largest Maryland gun community online. What load you firing? The issue is the 19 will not go into battery when I pull the slide back. I still want a few more range trips before i start carrying it daily again but it seems we are on the right track. There are MANY other options for Glock trigger mods and all of them have been in use far longer than the Timney. This is a brand new firearm and before you fired even one round down range you took it apart and modified it thus you have no baseline performence to know what the firearm was doing before you "improved" it. what I was trying to reference was the ' striker safety spring'. Glocks are pretty simple really. If I let It slam shut there is no problem. When you purchase through links on our site, we may earn an affiliate commission, which supports our community. A bit off the Timney topic, but you might try a Lone Wolf connector with the Overwatch trigger. The Fora platform includes forum software by XenForo. Back up a step that you took, and test,.. ie,.. swap the Timney back out. January 3, 2004 in Glock. I've got a 3rd gen G19 that I use as a suppressor host. Would suggest taking the slide off, checking to see the position of the spring. That is like test driving your car with the engine off then complaining of poor acceleration. There are too many to quote, so I will just address the points. I would like to take the glock armors course but not LE or GSSF might just have to change that some day. It sounds more like a recoil/mag spring issue to me. While you're at it, give the drop safety button a good buffing as well. These both assume a stock Glock so YMMV.-----I had a stock G19 that was failing to go into battery during live fire. Welcome to Glocks, The test I use is to take an UNLOADED gun and hold the trigger back, rack the slide back, then let the slide forward with my handto the point just before the barrel starts to rotate up, then I release the slide. Ammo used was all cheap Tula 9mm 115 gr. I was a little afraid to fire it after I ran the recoil spring test and it didn't go back into battery. BrianEnos.com You may post anything as long as it is related to the Glock line of pistols, and you are not spamming our sub with your advertisements, sales, YouTube channel. Usually a problem in the op rod channel or a rail problem. Ohthis is all with the muzzle pointing straight up. No lube should be needed on RSA. *********************************************, [URL]https://membership.nrahq.org/forms/signup.asp?campaignid=XI026751. I just pulled the firing pin safety and sure enough the spring had gotten tweeked when I reassembled it. It's only had failures to go to battery when I milked the slide. If it would close unless you let the trigger forwardthen it fails the test. Never an issue with limp wristing so far. The slide goes forward just fine if he doesn't hold back the trigger but when he holds back the trigger, the slide won't go fully forward. In one range trip (about 350 rounds) and one match this past weekend, I basically can't get through a magazine without multiple failures to go into battery. I think the mag springs might have been pretty tight too, 'cause mine seemed to want to hang on the first couple of rounds out of the mag. Grab the slide by the serrations and ram the web of your shooting hand into the cradle of the frame as hard as you can until it unjams. I've read through a lot of the big thread on the Timney Trigger, and have searched, and haven't been able to find similar malfunctions happening with the Timney. Ammo from the same box will fire fine in my 92A1 and P228, and G19 with the factory barrel. With the slide off, there was visible movement in the timney part when i manipulated the trigger. You should seriously look at the takedown lever. A slight adjustment to the crimping die corrected the problem. The lead tech at Suarez International was not only less helpful, but a total jerk about it. Just an excuse to try something new. Have you tried the field test for the RSA? You will receive an email every Friday morning featuring the latest chatter from the hottest topics, breaking news surrounding legislation, as well as exclusive deals only available to ARFCOM email subscribers. I thought of that, but wouldnt a heavier (ie: factory) spring make the issue more likely?, since with the timney its getting cocked as the slide returns to battery? Check for it. 2 Angle the pistol so that the muzzle is pointed straight up. I'm guessing if the OP was shooting reloads this may have been the problem. I totally get this. Great info thank you. I bought a LW threaded barrel direct from Gemtech last year for my suppressor. Thank you for that great info! Back to the G19m and several more failure to fires. You cannot paste images directly. Or at least use it as a starting point to tweak in a different direction than a Timney??? You can post now and register later. Pull the slide about 1/2" to the rear and let it go. One mag in particular was the worst. I will give anything a try because I can't afford to just eat the cost of this slide and buy a new one. It's as if the holding of the trigger is holding back the slide somehow. Tapping on the magazine or back of the slide gets the round to chamber. Copyright 1996-2023 AR15.COM LLC. I can't figure out how the trigger would cause that kind of malfunction anyway, but it's the only change I've made before the malfunction started. Its light but mushy. No aftermarket parts except Night Sights on a Glock that is going to be a Self Defense Weapon. After replacing all the springs and detail cleaning everything with no luck, I was eventually told to replace the extractor. first off, your slide internals are not installed correctly, the metal should be showing on your depressor plunger and not the rubber and spring and it looks like your missing a pin? I filmed one handed just so that I can get it on video. Some of it might be the tolerance of your frame itself. before the timney Ive been using a glockstore black yikes connector and Overwatch Precision trigger. I let it slam shut there is no problem i have used them in several Glocks found. 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